Here is the set of rims I bought for my 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GT. They were pulled off of my car with 24,500 miles on them. They have NEVER been driven in snow/salt. I went through and cleaned everything...even scrubbed the inside with a toothbrush. Immaculate condition. On the inside of one wheel there is a small bit of red paint that I can't seem to get off.